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Deze kent veel toepassingen, bijvoorbeeld creatures met persist, zoals Twilight Shepherd, maar ook Unstable Mutation, of Harbinger of Night.
Klopt en klopt.
1) Kitchen Finks: "return it to the battlefield ... with a -1/-1 counter on it" betekent "leg hem op de battlefield en leg er daarna een -1/-1 counter op" maar het replacement effect van Vizier of Remedies maakt daar vervolgens nul -1/-1 counters van.
2) Bij Devoted Druid heb je inderdaad met deze combinatie van kaarten de cost van de activated ability netjes betaald, ook al komt er geen -1/-1 counter op. Het is overigens alleen NIET zo dat de -1/-1 counters verdwijnen. Ze komen er gewoon al niet eens op.
Stel je hebt een Vizier of Remedies liggen en je hebt een Kitchen Finks die in battle dood gaat. Klopt het dan dat de Kitchen Finks terugkomt zonder counter?
En klopt het met een Devoted Druid dat je oneindig mana kan krijgen omdat de -1/-1 counters meteen verdwijnen?
117. Costs
117.11. The actions performed when paying a cost may be modified by effects. Even if they are, meaning the actions that are performed don't match the actions that are called for, the cost has still been paid.
Example: A player controls Psychic Vortex, an enchantment with a cumulative upkeep cost of "Draw a card," and Obstinate Familiar, a creature that says "If you would draw a card, you may skip that draw instead." The player may decide to pay Psychic Vortex's cumulative upkeep cost and then draw no cards instead of drawing the appropriate amount. The cumulative upkeep cost has still been paid.
Wow, werkt het replacement effect van het betalen van deze cost dus als het inderdaad betalen van deze cost?
Wat in ieder geval werkt is een sac outlet en een beestje met Persist. Is dat Kitchen Finks, dan krijg je de reward er al meteen bij.
Leuk met Devoted Druid voor oneindig veel mana.
Creature - Human Cleric 2 / 1
If one or more -1/-1 counters would be put on a creature you control, that many -1/-1 counters minus one are put on it instead.
Legal in: Vintage, Legacy, Modern, Commander
4/18/2017
“Put on a creature you control” includes that creature entering the battlefield with -1/-1 counters on it. If a creature would enter the battlefield under your control with a number of -1/-1 counters on it while you control Vizier of Remedies, it enters with that many counters minus one.
4/18/2017
If an effect puts Vizier of Remedies onto the battlefield with one or more -1/-1 counters on it, its effect won’t apply. This is because you must control Vizier of Remedies before the creature begins to enter the battlefield for its effect to apply. The same is true of any creatures entering the battlefield with -1/-1 counters on them at the same time as Vizier of Remedies enters the battlefield.
4/18/2017
If a creature you control is dealt damage by a source with wither or infect, that much damage is dealt, but one fewer -1/-1 counter is put on your creature. For example, if a 2/2 creature with lifelink and infect is blocked by Vizier of Remedies, the first creature’s controller gains 2 life and puts one -1/-1 counter on Vizier of Remedies.
4/18/2017
If multiple creatures with wither and/or infect deal damage to a creature at once, Vizier of Remedies causes only one counter fewer to be put on that creature. Its effect doesn’t apply separately for each creature dealing damage.
4/18/2017
Each additional Vizier of Remedies you control will decrease the number of -1/-1 counters put on a creature by one.
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